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Vini, ooooooooooooooo vini bre


me keqardhje po tkallxoj qe e ki gabu adresen.


Na, skena baker me sh i t e jooooooooooo, nese je i interesum me ble germa po, te shesim sa dush, se po te mungojkan do, a baker jo valla skena.



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lalja po bon biznis wrote:

ku kuuuuuuu qyyyyyyqe
a pa martu tu kokshe a?
ta gjon lalja ni qik te shpis





Lale 2 dite mendova per kete ofert hmmmmmmm

spariii ** ajo qik e shpis skish bo keq me pas buzqeshjen Nicole Kidman-it , personalitetin e Julia Roberts-it,bukurin e Michelle Pfeiffer dhe ambicie te Jennifer Lopez-it e per kete pune une e nali Alko.......(qefi i njerit LALE)


sdyti po ka edhe nje pune qe mka shkue mendja me be apo me KANDIDUE.... thash hajt po behem POLITIKAN naj Minister a ku ta dij PO kur mendova se sa DASHNORE e sa DROGEN e PARTY i kam mas meje ncukkkkkkkkk


streti tpershndes shum se ika prap prej teme shummmmmmm PO prap ta die per NDER per at ofert ;)


skaterti TREPCEN do te rindertoj une sado pak :( me lulue ke ky koment


me tmira

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lalja po bon biznis

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ku kuuuuuuu qyyyyyyqe


a pa martu tu kokshe a?


ta gjon lalja ni qik te shpis



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Laleeeeee Laleeeeeeeeeeee Laleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

nale doren se meta pa e fshi banesen !!!!!!!!!!!

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http://enrin.grida.no/htmls/kosovo/SoE/mining.htm

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Conclusions


 


Most of the information in this report is available from public sources, yet among locals and many international staff now working in Kosovo the subject of Trepca is regarded as dangerous and shrouded in secrecy. A principal aim of this report is to improve the transparency of the debate. Despite the lack of available long-term donor funding for the Trepca complex, the issue is too important to be allowed to stagnate in the hands of lawyers. Under the authority invested in UNMIK and KFOR by UNSC 1244 and the Military Technical Agreement, UNMIK and KFOR should implement a rapid and categorical takeover of Trepca complex, including the immediate, total shutdown of the environmentally hazardous facilities at Zvecan. Against an open admission that resources did not yet exist for a complete rehabilitation of the mining complex, UNMIK could nonetheless take a series of inexpensive measures to show active commitment and create a sense of progress. An initial assessment of Stari Trg has already been made: the priority now must be to produce a game-plan of measures whether easy and quick or depending on major investment of money and time, and vigorous attempts made to interest donors - Trepca featured as a separate issue neither in the World Bank's twin recent reports on Kosovo reconstruction43 nor at the 17 November donors' conference in Brussels. Yet Stari Trg, one of the richest mines in Europe, must be potentially profitable again and should be a priority for donors interested in setting Kosovo on its feet. Perhaps at this stage reliable information is needed more urgently than anything else. While the Kosovars have the expertise, they have not had access to the mine for ten years and have little information on the status of the equipment. The objective of the assessment would be to identify urgent needs, to begin at least some mining activity, and to assess any safety hazards due to neglect of the mine over the past ten years. It would be prudent not to plan on a vigorous or ambitious production schedule. A gradual process lasting at least several months should be counted on. While production at Stari Trg is starting up, the Zvecan environmental assessment team should produce its report on the status of the equipment and infrastructure and advise as to what measures must be taken. Simply handing Trepca over to the Kosovars is ruled out by the shortage of modern skills available locally, the need for internationally-verifiable standards to avoid corruption, and the sheer scale of damage and degradation at the various installations. But the people of Kosovo must be included in the process. An energetic approach should be taken during the assessment and start-up period in attempting to define a consensus amongst the Kosovars - meaning the Albanian parties and the Serb professional workforce, since the Albanians will not treat with the Belgrade-appointed management of the combine. This discussion should involve such points as the number of workers to re-employ, possible pensioning schemes for those not to be employed (out of the mine's assets, perhaps, rather than the state's), how quickly and with which technology the mineral resources should be exploited, whether and how Trepca or portions of it can become economically viable, and the areas in which there is a need for donor subsidy or private investment. The social impact of the reduced workforce would need to be balanced against the need for competitively based private investment. As some international economic officials have pointed out, much of the Trepca workforce has already found alternatives for their economic livelihood over the last ten years. Should a consensus fail to materialise the Kosovar electoral campaign planned for next year will inevitably raise Trepca as an issue. Those in the international community dealing with electoral issues and political development should accept and encourage an open and clearly defined articulation of positions by political figures and parties regarding Trepca. The workforce and management of all Trepca facilities should be selected on a merit basis only. Kosovars - living in Kosovo, regardless of ethnicity - should have preference to work at any Trepca facility.44 But no one with ties to the Belgrade regime should be considered. Finally, looking beyond Kosovo's boundaries, it would be better to have accomplished the first key steps of this approach before a Serbian election campaign in order that the perception of 'who lost Kosovo' falls on the rightful culprit, Slobodan Milosevic, and to avoid the perception that a new, with luck more progressive government, can be accused of 'losing Trepca'.


 


Recommendations


 


UNMIK should as a priority build up the staff capacity to assert total control over Trepca in accordance with the terms of its stewardship of Kosovo, take over the installations and announce a modest programme of action for a 'pre-donor phase' of rehabilitation. This programme should include detailed examinations of the measures needed before production can be started up at each of the installations within Kosovo. UNMIK should publish its own assessment of the facts concerning ownership and the legal status of the complex, as an aid to public understanding and to reduce the climate of conspiracy and rumour in which the issue of Trepca too easily becomes shrouded. A court of adjudication should be nominated for claims, in the knowledge that this court will probably act very slowly, so that the situation on the ground will either have to stagnate, or else develop independently of it. The above programme should begin before elections in Serbia.


 



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Serb Views


 


The Serb approach is that the Trepca complex is privately owned. There exists a body called the Trepca Shareholders' Assembly whose chairman, Mr Branislav Milanovic, has written to Dr Kouchner proposing that the existing management of the Trepca complex (that is, the management installed by Belgrade) should be allowed to take over and run all the Trepca installations, including those now in areas of Kosovar-Albanian majority control. The management under Mr Novak Bjelic, based in its offices at Zvecan, naturally endorses the view that Trepca is a private company. Since the shareholders in Trepca all appear to be public Yugoslav companies (see section III above) this claim is not taken seriously. Further, the Belgrade-installed management is detested so heartily by all the Kosovar Albanian parties that the scope for co-operation looks unpromising. The likeliest result of current trends, if left unchecked, is that the Serbs will, to the extent possible given damage and resource constraints, run the facilities in territory they control, while the Albanians will insist on their own control over installations in their own territory, which however will lie idle for want of repair and investment. At a level below the political, UNMIK reports that Serb and Albanian technicians are succeeding in working together, for example at the mine at Novo Brdo. This suggests that there are at least some Serbs who simply want to live normal lives and are not following an agenda set in Belgrade. But it would be premature to conclude that mining can be a sector in which Serb and Albanian can co-operate side by side, in contrast to almost every other sector.


 


Regional Implications


 


Montenegro


 


While some analysts feel that Trepca contributed to the break earlier in the decade between then Montenegrin Prime Minister, now president Djukanovic and then Serbian now Yugoslav President Milosevic, there is little credible evidence to back it up. Still much of the foreign concentrates smelted at Zvecan and finished mineral products are imported and exported through the port of Bar. A short-term halt of the movement of these materials through Montenegro and hence the lack of any transit fees that Montenegro may glean from use of its territory should have only a minor impact due to the relatively small quantities being transported. Montenegro stands more to gain in the longer term as an import-export corridor should Trepca re-start in a legitimate and productive fashion.


 


Serbia


 


More serious repercussions could occur in Serbia. None of the opposition leaders in Serbia has ever tolerated the idea of an independent Kosovo. On the contrary Serbian politicians compete to be 'most Serb' over Kosovo. A key issue over the next few months will be not only the developments in the relationship between Montenegro and Serbia but the possibility of elections in Serbia itself. The question arises as to what effect firm UNMIK action on Trepca would do to the chances of the opposition to weaken or topple the Milosevic regime. Making no bold moves leaves the festering wound of Mitrovicė/a to be exploited by Milosevic in claiming his ability to maintain a key economic foothold in Kosovo. Should UNMIK assume the administration of Trepca and take the Zvecan smelter out of Belgrade's hands all Serb politicians would have to react. Milosevic would continue to foster the notion of the great US-EU conspiracy against the Serbs. Vojislav Seselj would likely take a stronger line and issue violent threats as he has done on many occasions. Opposition leaders like Djindjic and Draskovic would also likely deplore the international community's action. However they could exploit the argument that the 'loss' was due to the pariah status of Milosevic himself, so that once again Serbia has lost assets due to his presence in office. So provided action were taken before any elections in Serbia it need not upset, and might contribute to, any strategy for unseating Milosevic.



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Unmik's Developing Position


 


On 25 July Dr Kouchner issued Regulation #1999/1. Under the section titled State property, the regulation reads; "UNMIK shall administer movable or immovable property, including monetary accounts, and other property of, or registered in the name of the Federal Republic of Yugoslavia or the Republic of Serbia or any of its organs, which is in the territory of Kosovo." These few words are now being put into action. Overworked and under resourced UNMIK personnel are grappling with how to deal with such large enterprises as Trepca. Is Trepca a state-owned enterprise? Or is it worker-owned, along the lines embarked upon by the Kosovar administration between 1975 and 1989? Do any of the foreign claims have validity? What should be the role of the self-appointed provisional government of Kosovo? Two general policies were considered, and each has been advocated by different parts of UNMIK at different times. First is the 'jigsaw puzzle' approach originally preferred by UNMIK Mitrovicė/a. Under this thinking, decisive action would be premature before all the ownership, liabilities, and environmental issues are resolved, an international donor or consortium of donors or investors is found, and ethnic balancing is taken into account in determining who is employed at the various facilities. Those advocating the 'jigsaw puzzle' approach are wary of making any moves that might set precedents, which the international community may later rue. Above all they claim that no significant moves should be made without the negotiated consent of both parties. Experience suggests that this consent, as well as the need to satisfy many lawyers on legal issues, would bring a delay of several years to the restoration of production. The second possible approach would put off ownership and liability issues for the present. Meanwhile, international donors must be mobilised to fund urgent repairs, and private investors must be attracted to begin longer-term revitalisation of the aged and damaged facilities. Within this approach some believe that UNMIK does have the authority to issue a concession to an investor (predicated upon an open, transparent bidding process) that could be legally binding beyond the term of UNMIKs temporary administration.40 Some in the international community go further and believe that UNMIK also has the mandate to even privatise state owned property41 - but in the case of Trepca, with so many short-term problems to be resolved first, this question has not even appeared on the agenda. The two alternative approaches can be summed up as; the path of negotiations or the path of unilateral action. The international community has a long history in the region of the failure of the negotiating path without first having used more aggressive measures - with the effect of having to apply more decisive measures in the end, when the negotiating path finally proved to be a dead end. A policy of consent of the parties gives one or the other a veto over the process, hence deadlock. On the other hand more forceful action by the international community in the Balkans (when properly planned and thought through) has usually led to progress of some sort. The consequences are not always exactly as predicted, but pessimistic predictions of disaster (which are never lacking) have not been justified by events. A principal problem for any active approach is that no donor has yet come forward to express an interest in putting up the money needed to get the Trepca site producing again. Given existing damage, poor maintenance and deliberate sabotage, UNMIK estimates that at least USD 10 million will be required before the mines start to appear attractive to investors. This lack of a donor makes UNMIK reluctant to make promises it cannot yet keep, or start any train of action it does not have the resources to carry through to a conclusion.


 


The Kosovar Albanian Leaderships42


 


There are two views within the Kosovar Albanian community as to the future management, operation, ownership, and economic direction of Trepca. The first group, led by former Trepca and Stari Trg directors Aziz Abrashi and Burhan Kavaja, respectively, believes that the complex should (following on from 1989) rightly be worker owned, and should, at least at first, be managed and operated by the veteran Kosovar miners and technical engineers who were expelled from the facilities in 1989. They claim that after a short period in which the mine is offered low-interest credit they could not only put it on a profit making basis but also pay back the loan. The second group, led by provisional government deputy minister for Finance Safet Merovci, takes a more forward-looking, economic rationalisation approach. First, they would identify Trepca as state-owned, but while acknowledging UNMIK's influence and authority under UNSC Resolution 1244, they claim that Kosovo, rather than Serbia, is the state in question. Second, they are eager to modernise the facilities but are wary of any premature privatisation or any quick stripping of the assets that might preclude the influence of a future Kosovar state. In fact, while the negotiating postures of the two groups may seem far apart, the two views are not that dissimilar. Both groups are eager to free from Belgrade control those parts of the Trepca conglomerate within Kosovo, and get Kosovars back to work inside the facilities, to begin assessments of repairs, investment, and manpower needed to get Stari Trg up and running. Both also agree that the complex belongs to Kosovo and Kosovo alone, that all outside claims are fraudulent or at best invalid, that the claims by Rozan and Mytilineos in particular represent no more than Belgrade's crude attempt to keep its hand in Trepca by working through more presentable foreign fronts. While the Abrashi group is eager to lead Trepca's former mineworkers back into Stari Trg, they are by no means insistent upon running the complex indefinitely. And while the Merovci-led group is interested in moving forward with investment and modernisation, Merovci himself recognises the respect the miners have for their former director Aziz Abrashi. There do remain differences between the two groups. The Abrashi/Kavaja team (the traditionalist professionals who follow Bujar Bukoshi and the LDK) fears that calling the facility "state-owned" could somehow legitimise Milosevic's claim to Trepca, whereas the younger KLA group around Merovci are concerned that the Abrashi/Kavaja team itself has compromising business ties back to Belgrade. The older, more experienced team also worries that the younger group has little experience in or commitment to mining, and might therefore make ill-advised decisions or put a lot of people out of work; the more youthful team is somewhat impatient with the older group's insistence on retaining traditional techniques and a huge workforce. A thoughtful, persistent approach by UNMIK officials could bridge these differences, in the interest of moving toward the two groups' avowed common goals: breaking the stalemate over the Trepca issue, easing the security problem in Mitrovicė/a, putting people back to work, and getting Kosovo's industrial assets into the hands of people who will use them to develop Kosovo rather than enrich themselves. However, the two Kosovar approaches mirror the long running rivalry and split between the rival claims to be the Kosovar government; i.e. Bukoshi and Thaēi. This in itself is an obstacle to agreement between them. Should both insist upon being sole directors of Trepca, UNMIK could find itself in the unenviable position of choosing one over the other, or else focusing the blame of the failure of Trepca to re-start on internal Kosovar rivalries. Over the next year there will likely be more and more electoral calculus applied to the issue of Trepca. The Kosovar political parties will desire to woo the mineworkers' union and through them influence the wider electorate. This is not necessarily a bad thing. If Trepca could be extracted from being viewed only as an issue between Serbs and Albanians with UNMIK in the awkward middle, then the debate over the way forward could become a natural issue in an election campaign. The decision as to size of labour force, foreign investment, modernisation versus social assistance, are all valid issues upon which rival political parties must articulate a position. These are also issues which many societies grapple with in dealing with their own future. Any issue which gives Kosovar politicians something to talk about beyond simply agitating for independence will helpfully broaden the political debate. If handled correctly, the issue of Trepca's medium and long-term future could be a constructive point for debate rather than an unresolved security issue or part of the failures of the international community in Kosovo.


 



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The Environmental Concerns at Zvecan


 


The Trepca conglomerate has had a long history of environmental problems. During the 1980s a Trepca plant that produced agricultural chemicals was blamed for producing fertilizers with such high super phosphate strength that livestock died after grazing on treated land.10 The worst pollution comes from the smelter in Zvecan, just a few kilometres northwest of Mitrovicė/a. The river Ibar runs past the smelter, before flowing through the city of Mitrovicė/a and then into the Gazivoda Lake and so into Serbia proper. Sulphur dioxide as a by-product of the metallurgical process is released into the air. With little or no investment in the plant over the last ten years the equipment has not been updated to meet increasingly stringent modern standards.11 Some Kosovar experts also fear that current smelting practices as run by the Serbs are environmentally worse than those of ten years ago. They suspect that ore concentrates coming from as far away as Colombia contain far higher levels of mercury and arsenic than is allowed by international standards.12 Both Kosovar and international officials stress the importance of an in-depth and technically competent environmental assessment of this outdated and run-down plant.


 


Claimants and Questions of Ownership


 


Throughout the 1990s the ownership of Trepca conglomerate was never entirely clear. In November 1997 Trepca was one of 75 companies slated for privatisation by the Belgrade government.13 This process stalled when a close confidant of the Milosevics, Zoran Todorovic, one of the richest men in Yugoslavia and director of Beopetrol, a state firm in the process of being privatised, was gunned down in Belgrade.14 Recently one report claimed that Jugobanka, Beobanka, and Dunav, a Belgrade insurance company, now control Trepca's ownership.15 Belgrade's general policy appears to have been to introduce maximum confusion, allowing the regime the flexibility to exploit the resources, break sanctions, disguise the money flow, and reward favoured cronies.16 UNMIK officials believe that the legal position is actually as follows: Trepca is owned 66% by the Serbia Development Fund, 27% socially, 2.5% Jugobanka, 2.5% Progress and Beobanka, and 2% by Serbian Electric Power. As a result they conclude that the complex is overall public property and therefore under UNMIK's authority in accordance with its mandate. But there do exist private-sector claims which complicate the issue.


 


Société Commerciale de Métaux et de Minéraux (SCMM)


 


In July 1999, shortly after the deployment of KFOR, with French military assigned to the Mitrovicė/a area, Mr Jean-Pierre Rozan17 appeared claiming 2.8% ownership of Trepca on behalf of the Paris-based SCMM of which he was a director. According to Rozan, SCMM had inadvertently come to be a shareholder in Trepca. This was due to an agreement with Belgrade under which SCMM took over Jugobanka's subsidiary in Kosovo as a result of Belgrade's failure to meet previous business commitments to SCMM.18 Despite these previous business dealings and Jugobanka's well-publicised claim of part ownership in Trepca, Rozan expressed surprise that his newly acquired bank branches were themselves shareholders in Trepca. SCMM's claims have not been taken seriously and have received no backing from the French government.19 Nevertheless some Kosovar Albanians, always ready to believe in a conspiracy however unlikely, are prepared to perceive SCMM as part of a wider Franco-Serbian understanding, which incorporates French KFOR acquiescence in the partition of Mitrovicė/a, French economic interests in Trepca, and even the appointment of Dr Bernard Kouchner himself as head of UNMIK and Special Representative of the UN Secretary-General.20 The recent award of a GSM telecommunications concession, regardless of the transparency of the process, to French company Alcatel, has fuelled the suspicions of such conspiracy-theorists. To other veteran observers of the Balkans, however, the involvement of SCMM looks like a Milosevic-style attempt to create a diversion (including by encouraging exactly that Balkan and Kosovar propensity for conspiracy-identification outlined above), and confuse the thinking of international officials charged with working out the problem. By putting this and other claims to due process of arbitration, and meanwhile getting on with what needs to be done, the problem can be neatly sidestepped. The UNMIK regional office in Mitrovicė/a meanwhile occupies the Jugobanka building and continues to display Jugobanka insignia in the very meeting room to which Kosovars are invited to discuss Trepca - some report that they feel uneasy in such surroundings. Rozan, as 'owner' of Jugobanka and the building, is demanding rent,21 which UNMIK has refused to pay, since Jugobanka is considered a public company and therefore under UN trusteeship, like other public property in Kosovo.


 


Mytilineos Holdings S.A.


 


This Athens-based company was established in 1990. After securing predominance early in the decade in the domestic Greek market for lead and zinc,22 the company began to branch out. In December 1995, in a widely publicised agreement just days after the suspension of economic sanctions on Yugoslavia, Mytilineos began to handle the marketing of Trepca minerals, particularly of lead and zinc. This $50million contract was expanded in 1997 to a seven-year, $519 million arrangement. In December 1996, after years in the metal trading business, the chairman of the board of Mytilineos Holding, Mr. Evangelos Mytilineos, was appointed to the board of directors of OTE, the Greek telecommunications company.23 Six months later, OTE, in conjunction with Telecom Italia paid the Belgrade regime $1 billion for a minority holding in Serbia Telekom.24 The Mytilineos company also went into business with the large copper mine at Bor in Serbia. In February 1998 they signed a seven-year agreement with the potential for $1 billion of investment and trade.25 Mr. Mytilineos's business acumen has also led him into the field of banking.26 He shares with Borka Vucic, a long-time banking advisor to Slobodan Milosevic, the co-presidency of the Greek-Serb Business Council established in 1998.27 Through a subsidiary Metka, Mytilineos Holding has recently secured some large defence contracts to produce submarines and Patriot missiles for the Greek military.28 This same subsidiary Metka is also involved with the state owned Yugoslav Power Company.29 Mytilineos says it contracted with Yugoslav state firm Genex, backed by guarantees issued by state banks Jugobanka and Beobanka (run by Borka Vucic). All three companies have close links with Slobodan Milosevic and his family - Milosevic's brother is a sometime director of Genex. Genex's role appears to be mainly to accept part of the profits. In 1998 bankruptcy proceedings were initiated at the request of the Yugoslav Central Bank against Genex.30 Mytilineos expressed the importance he placed on Trepca in December 1998 saying it has contributed decisively to the further development of his company.31 Curiously only days later in January 1999, he launched a lawsuit in Belgrade due to the failure of the Trepca deal.32 In April during the bombing campaign Mytilineos was reported to be 'furious' with the regime and was claiming compensation for Belgrade's failure to deliver on their contract.33 Along with a leading hotel in Belgrade and other enterprises, Mytilineos Holding SA have also claimed that Trepca is theirs.34 On their website Mytilineos sum up their business strategy in the Balkans region: " Through these contracts Mytilineos SA is rendered, in essence, a financier and co-manager of collaborating groups . . .Companies such as Mytilineos SA, that adopt a long-term collaboration policy with local producers, enjoy special treatment and revel in their exclusive marketing rights on company products."35 The Kosovo parallel government of President Rugova (elected by Albanians who had boycotted official elections) warned foreign companies in May 1997 that these agreements were considered 'null and void.'36 Kosovars state that the strategy of SCMM, Mytilineos, and the Belgrade regime is an attempt to show that Trepca is privately owned. If proven, this would demand a different approach from UNMIK. Mytilineos is a harder problem than SCMM for UNMIK for two reasons. First, it appears to be a solid company with an international track record and many international partners. Second, it has close ties to the Greek government.37 An EU member, Greece has recently demonstrated an eagerness to make significant financial investments in the Balkans.38 UNMIK cannot simply ignore claims which may be genuine, and the UN legal advisers in New York have concluded that the rights of claimants like Mytilineos must go to adjudication. The question arises as to which court. So far that is left in abeyance, as is the nature of the legal proceedings themselves. If all other decisions are left to depend upon the resolution of this issue, it could be many years before Trepca starts working again. Finally it should be pointed out that the interest of the Milosevic circle in exploiting the Trepca facilities might go beyond the simple operation of sharing out the profits. International financial officials have long recognized the minerals industry as being prime for money laundering. The variations in quantity of ore concentrates, the varying degrees of extraction and processing costs and the price fluctuation in the final product make for the type of confusing opportunity for obfuscations that a money-laundering scheme needs. An example in point was the mid 1990's Hamanaka case where the trade in copper was allegedly used to cover the illegal funds generated from the south-east Asia drug trade.39



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International Crisis Group


 


Trepca: Making Sense of the Labyrinth


 


26 November 1999


 


Introduction


 


The enterprise known as Trepca1 is a sprawling conglomerate of some 40 mines and factories, located mostly in Kosovo but also in other locations in Serbia and Montenegro. Its activities include chemical processing and production of goods as varied as batteries and paint. But the heart of its operations, and the source of most of its raw material, is the vast mining complex to the east of Mitrovicė/a in the north of Kosovo, famous since Roman times. This report examines the current position of the mines, together with the associated smelting complex at nearby Zvecan. The future of Trepca cuts to the heart of the Kosovars' identity. Its great mineral wealth is the basis of the economy of Kosovo, but the complex is badly run-down as a result of under-investment and over-exploitation by governments in Belgrade. Trepca figured largely among the issues over which Albanians took to the streets in 1988/9, and the issue of control over the mines has assumed tremendous symbolic importance. Trepca, as one circumspect Kosovar observed, is Kosovo's Berlin Wall. It has long stood for Kosovar Albanians as the symbol of Serbian oppression and of their own resistance. After 1974, when Tito's new constitution accorded the province near-republic status, with its own parliament and courts, Kosovars enjoyed a period of greatly increased control over their own resources. Finally able to manage the Trepca facilities themselves, Kosovars used their enhanced authority to build factories in Kosovo that capitalised on their mineral production, created thousands of jobs, and brought some real income into the province. After Tito's death, Kosovars pressed again or more rights and greater political and economic autonomy, but with little success. Belgrade reasserted control of the mines, and in 1981-82, a sort of "Trepca-gate" scandal - in which Kosovar Albanian workers were accused of having stolen vast quantities of gold and silver - was the pretext for firing many engineers and technicians.


 


From 1981-89, Belgrade monopolised the export of Trepca's minerals to Russia and elsewhere, reaping the profits in hard currency and oil, while compensating the Kosovars only with electricity and other non-fungible forms of payment. This discriminatory compensation scheme was aggravated by the high inflation of the 1980s. Trepca's Kosovar management attempted to sell its products on the European market and to modernise the facilities' modes of production, only to be foiled time and again by the Serbian government, which was in the process of "integrating" Serbia's economy - that is, of tethering all economic sectors even more closely to Belgrade. By the late 1980s, with the final integration into the Serbian system of the power generating system, Kosovars had lost virtually all control over their economy, as they would over their politics and civic freedoms. 2


 


In 1988-89 the Albanian management and workers were summarily expelled from Trepca. The mineworkers' union organised a winter march to Prishtinė/Pristina in November 1988, followed by other marches of support within Kosovo. In February 1989 there was a hunger strike, many miners and directors were arrested and imprisoned for up to 14 months. These events are remembered and romanticised by young and old as Kosovo's own Solidarity movement - the earliest, sustained resistance to Serbian oppression under Slobodan Milosevic. 3


 


During the first half of the 1990s Belgrade managed to keep up only a small percentage of Trepca's production, due to lack of ongoing investment in machinery, poor maintenance and the dismissal in 1989 of experienced Albanian staff.4 The management attempted to replace this expertise with guest miners from Serbia and Poland.5 All the production plants closed. After nearly three years of economic sanctions instituted as punishment for its role in the Bosnian war, Belgrade was looking for ways to acquire large injections of cash. Exploiting Trepca seemed a likely option. In February 1995, new management was installed, and a 'program of revitalization' was undertaken. The new team claimed that by the end of 1996 all the production plants were back into operation, ore excavation had increased, modern mining equipment had been purchased from Sweden, and all the lead and zinc mines in Serbia and Montenegro had been brought under the management of the Trepca company. Again according to Serbian official sources, in 1996 Trepca had exported $100 million of products, making it the largest exporting company in the Federal Republic of Yugoslavia.6 Belgrade even planned to bring mineral concentrates from the Bosnian Serb controlled mine in Srebrenica, site of the notorious massacre by Serb forces in July 1995.7 The problems of Trepca are many and complex. They include its alleged liabilities, the question who really owns it and who has been profiting from it, the deteriorating condition of its antiquated machinery, its anachronistically oversized workforce, the scant field of prospective investors, the disastrous environmental impact of the Zvecan smelter, and internal Kosovo politics. Even so, it is critical that at least some aspects of the Trepca issue be addressed immediately and not await the resolution of the entire nexus of problems. Most urgently, because of its importance to Belgrade, Trepca figures centrally in the unresolved security situation in Mitrovicė/a and in its current status as a divided city. At least some of the talk of a partition of Kosovo arises from the knowledge that control of Trepca makes a vast difference to the territory's economic prospects. Reports of Serbian police in and around Zvecan, of Serb looting, rumours even of Albanian prisoners being held there - all point to a need for immediate international action.8


 


It is also urgent that the people of Kosovo begin to see signs of progress towards some sort of economic normality. The return to work of even a few hundred Kosovar miners would represent, for all Kosovars, the reclaiming of their patrimony. A timely, if temporary, step forward on the issue of Trepca by UNMIK and KFOR would demonstrate to the Kosovars that the international community appreciates Trepca's symbolic importance and Kosovars' need and wish to get back to work and to regain some control over their lives.


The Structure of the Trepca Conglomerate


 


From Mine to Factory


 


As already noted, Trepca is a conglomerate which includes not only its three key components - Stari Trg9 mine, Zvecan smelter and the Mitrovicė/a industrial complex - but a total of 41 installations, including some outside Kosovo. Trepca encompasses four distinct processes: extraction, flotation, smelting, and downstream processing, as well as other production and marketing units. The Stari Trg mine east of Mitrovicė/a was, in 1989, responsible for 40-50% of the mining production. Other mines in Kosovo - Hajvali/Ajvalija, Novo Bėrdė/Novo Brdo, Kishnicė/Kisnica, and Badoc/Badovac - accounted for roughly another 30% of Trepca's production. Two more mining facilities, at Crnac and Belo Brdo, are in the Serb-held areas north of Mitrovicė/a, while three other mines are outside of Kosovo - these five mines are estimated to account for an estimated 20% of Trepca's total mining extraction. The minerals taken from Stari Trg are fed into the flotation facility on the Stari Trg premises, whereas the minerals extracted from Kosovo's other four mines undergo flotation at the Badoc/Badovac plant and those taken from Crnac and Belo Brdo are processed in Leposaviq/c. The resulting lead concentrates from all these flotation facilities, in addition to that coming from the mines outside of Kosovo, used to be smelted at Zvecan. The lead, zinc, silver, gold, cadmium and bismuth then go to such downstream facilities as the battery factories in Mitrovicė/a and Pejė/Pec, the FAMIPA factory in Prizren, and a hunting munitions factory in Skėnderaj/Srbica. Hydrogen sulphide from Zvecan is processed in Mitrovicė/a's industrial chemical plant, and the zinc and cadmium, after being processed in Mitrovicė/a, are then sent to Gjilan/Gnjiljane for further industrial processing.


 



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xenini

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Po shum legjenda u shkru per ket Trepq. Nuk po di mo ēka me mendu. Nji here ne gazet e lexon qe dikush po thot qe trepca ėshtė shum e pasur dhe duhet te shtihet ne punim. Tjeter dit, tjeter expert del dhe thot qe ne Trepc nuk vlen te investohet se duhet shum para cilat mandej nuk munden te kthehen. Fakt ėshtė, qe Trepqa eksploatohet qe 100 e diqka vjet, por fakti tjeter ėshtė qe kan ndrushu shum sene ne industrin dhe ekonomin globale. Para disa dite ne gazet dul qe krejt qka kan punu tre a ma shum muaj puntoret ne Trepq, nuk kan mujt as shpenzimet e rrogave me i nxjer, e per profit nuk bohet as fjal. Teknollogjia ne Trepq ėshtė shum e vjeter dhe e tejkalume Duhet realisht me i kqyr senet dhe ekspertat ton me e vlersu, a na duhet Trepca a nuk na duhet. Nuk mbahet gruja me zor. Ne krejt perendimin e zhvilluar po mbyllen alamet fabrikat, se nuk po munden me u mbajt mo. Ne kesi rraste, nuk duhet me u nis nga nostalgjia, po nga matematika. A sjell fitim, a duhet humbjet e Trepqes gjeth me i mbyll prej bugjetit te Kosoves. Kaq prej meje.

-- Edited by xenini at 10:37, 2006-04-13

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pllavushja

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gjet viteve 1989 e deri me 1999 serbia ka mare qindra miliona euro ne emer te investimeve ne trepce. kryesist nga greqia dhe franca.


ata sot i kerkojne trepces pra kosoves te i laj borgjet. kjo eshte arsyeja e vetme pse AKM-ja e ka nxjere trepcen ne ****je.


sdot ne koha ditore po shkrun se ministri Shatri ka thene se ne mbledhjen e bordit te AKMse eshe venose se AKM-ja nuk do te merret me borgjet e trepces ne kete periudh.


po Shatri keto fore mundet me ja ****e tjeterkujt se AKM-ja ja ka koqet ne fijoke. Krejt foni i AKM-se eshte i depozituar jashte kosoves dhe i dedikuar per serbine.


p.sh.kur nje fabrike nga prona shoqerore privatizohet prej shumes se pergjithshme 20% shkojne per punetoret. nga 80% paguhet ndokush qe eventualisht ka dokumente mbi pronesine e ndermarjes(kjo ndodhe shumeeeeeeeee shumeee rralle, kurse pjesa e mbetur mbetet ne fondin e AKMse dhe eshe e dedikuar per Serbine. a po menoni se perndryshe serbija nuk kish kundershtu privatizimin ne kosove a???


 a mos ju ka bo vaki me e ni noj politikan a gazetar a far shkau qe po kundershton ****jen e fabrikave ku edhe ata kan punu??????????


jo


pse me kundershtu kur krejt paret i marin vet.


qashtu kan me i mare edhe paret e tepces.


mani ne mend qa po ju thom.


na e ****en kosoven kadal kadale.


ani qi e ****en po e ****en per pare te vogla.


fleni ju shiptar fleniiiiiiiiiiiiiii



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EXPO pimp

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XENE respekt................ po si shihet si cdo here keta sjan per forum

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xenini

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"Caglavice", hvala ti puno na socnim psovkama koje si mi uputio, ali vazno je da je dijalog poceo. Posto ti je tesko da citash i pises na albanskom, ti slobodno otvori novu temu i pisi na srpskom i ja te necu obrisati. Ja ti nudim gostoprimstvo i zelju da pocnemo da razgovaramo, bez obzira na nase poglede i opredelenja bilo politicka ili nacionalna.

Nema potrebe da psujes toliko, jer to mene uopste ne tangira, ako mislis da me tako nesto uvrijedis. Ja sam na to imun, jer zivim ovdje i psovka mi je svakodnevnica.

Haj pokusaj biti dobar, i pricaj nam malo o vasem zivotu na Kosovu i da li stvarno nemate slobodu kretanja ili vas stvarno neko plasi?

Toliko od mene xeninija stoke shiptarske.

P.S. U Albaniju i idemo na more!

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Name: Caglaviaca

Date: 2 days ago
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Quote | ReplyRE: TREPĒA


ej sssipci picka li vam materina, slucajno znam xeninija iz njegovih diskusija (srbijacaffe) i da mu se keve najebem i njemu i svima vama a najvisse ovoj srpkinji plavussi koja diskutira na ovom govnarsko-siptarskom  kurcevitom sajtu. Ne razumem koj kurac tu diskutirate samo znam nesto o srpskoj trepci. Al nema veze. Ako zelite da diskutujete dodjite na srpskom sajtu i diskutujte na srpskom da vas ceo svet razume, a ne na siptarskom primitivnom balijskom nazovi jeziku. Ajd bagro idite u aljbaniju.

   Ty bre shka  qe me siguri ta kan qi nonen shqiptar se po mirret vesh se tngreh me hi ku shkruhet shqip se sa ju mer juve vesh bota ne at gjuhen e juj te pisavt ne e dim se ju as ne mes veti nuk mkirrni vesh e leje ma tjert tju marrin vesh juve shkive e sa i perket kosoves edhe vendet ku jan me shqiptar ju mundeni me andrru se andrren nuk jav ndal kerrkush,por a e dini se kur mundeni mi marr ato vende te shqiptarve vetem kur te pordhni te vdekur ne arkivole, ne Shqiptaret jemi mbret te ballkanit kurse serbet jan rrogtart ose ma mir ti me marr vesh rob-argat  per me dlir berllogin e shqiptarve edhe kini me met qeshtu se trunin e kini te xhove te kqija.Shkinat jan te mira per mi iq se e kan merak me kar te shqiptarve edhe ato ne goj bile.

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Caglaviaca

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ej sssipci picka li vam materina, slucajno znam xeninija iz njegovih diskusija (srbijacaffe) i da mu se keve najebem i njemu i svima vama a najvisse ovoj srpkinji plavussi koja diskutira na ovom govnarsko-siptarskom  kurcevitom sajtu. Ne razumem koj kurac tu diskutirate samo znam nesto o srpskoj trepci. Al nema veze. Ako zelite da diskutujete dodjite na srpskom sajtu i diskutujte na srpskom da vas ceo svet razume, a ne na siptarskom primitivnom balijskom nazovi jeziku. Ajd bagro idite u aljbaniju.

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AyEshteZeshkan

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Oj pllavushe, mos u merzit per kta vica pa lidhje se veq inatin po ta kan. E dine kta fort mire qe blondes have all the fun

E sa per privatizim, mos u merzitni, u sh it qa ka pas me u sh it, per qata pak qe o mbet, nuk kena kqyr kurre. O desht per kit pune me mendu e me fol para 5 vjete kur o vendos a me u bo privatizim a me mbete komercializim, edhe kur o vendos kush edhe qysh ka me u marr me kit proces. Edhe bile kurgjo qe jon bo 5 vjet sa na jemi dy-tre veta qe baravatem me kit pune, shiptarve ju vyn historikisht minimum 10 vjet me e pa ku kan gabu... besa minimum 10 vjet edhe me ju qi nonen me e ndi ne shpine t'vet secilli se tjetrit nuk i besojin/nuk ju ndin.

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Japani

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lalja wrote:


po hajt more hiqnu saj! a dini pse e kan pllavushet ballin me vreda? prej rrypit hahahah ****ne more, ****ne krejt kosoven runu po ju met edhe naj rob te shpija pa ****e

A e dini pse pllavushja e mban veshin ne mur te shpijes
(eshte tuj lyp me gjet house music)

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EXPO

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AyEshteZeshkan wrote:

O .

Ti [expo] bre njeri te koke kategori e veqante. Allahile kallxom n'qfar tabele e gjete Mesingun? Ne qat tabelen periodike te Mendeljevit, qe e pranon krejt bota pos teje, nuk ka mesing as nuk ka element me shkurtese Me MESINGU OSHT LEGURE, E LEGURAT NUK JON N'TABELE.

EXPO-IMPO wrote:
eh morre i nderuari ZESHKAN ti larg je prej POLITIKE besom me kete komentin tend ,se per me u marr me POLITIK duhesh me NOTUE ME VALE te EKONOMIs (e kjo pune e ka si DASHURIA nese din me notue PSHTON e nese nuk din FUNDOSESH ), edhe e perberjen e MAKINES apo drampes ne perqindje me metal kisha pas qef me dite prej teje ?! nese ka mundesi SHEMBULL nese deshiron se krejt cka ka edhe ne GOMA te MAKINES te tregoj sa fije te telit me saktesisht MESSING (perzirja e BAKRIT me ZINK ne tabelen kimike" Me ") ne te jan!!!!

E qe tash, kqyrne ju per veti se kush o qu me ja bajt dertin privatizimit t'pasunis tukosovs. Me gjith mu e kit haverin Metalin qe qohem me ja spjegu qiftit tyne pjesmarrjen e materialeve n'prodhime...







MESSING (perzirja e BAKRIT me ZINK ne tabelen kimike" Me ") ne te jan!!!!



LEGURA e MESSINGUN dmth (perzirja e BAKRIT me ZINK )



Ne qat tabelen periodike te Mendeljevit nuke permnda ??!! tabelen kimike" Me "


mfal vetem sjam ekspert ne KIMI por u shpreha sipas aftesive tmija


me tmira

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EXPO

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periodike te Mendeljevit, qe e pranon krejt bota pos teje, nuk ka mesing as nuk ka element me shkurtese Me MESINGU OSHT LEGURE, E LEGURAT NUK JON N'TABELE.


ej e pranoj kritiken shum se dobesi e imja qe nuk kam hye kah LEGURAT thash tja futi me thjesht kerkoj FALJE

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pllavushja

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o ti Ay. Ti ne princip e ke mire. Fabrikat duhet me i ****e edhe ka 1 euro per me mujt me e zvogelu numrin e te papuneve (keshtu tha edhe Pacolli nje dite). Por druaj se fabrikat dhe objektet e tjera te cilat po ****en nuk po blehen per te rrite prodhimin, por si objekte tragetare. rrasti ma tipik eshte Unioni i cili u **** me cmim me te larte se hoteli Iliria, se unionin e bejne qender tregetare, i japin duqanet me qera edhe fitojne ma shume dhe pa u lodhe hiq.


etj etj etj


fabrikat duhen me u ****e, pajtohem.


Per mua eshte e papranueshme te ****en pasurite nentokesore. mos me thuni nuk ka Kosova pare per revitalizim. me dite me punu paret gjinden. se pari fondi i AKMse jasht vendit, Fondi pensional, te hollat e ndermarjeve publike si PTKse ( qe ja u lan me i hannger bankat falimentuese)etj etj etj.


edhe nuk po thom me ja u marra atyne paret, por me mujt me i perdore ne forme te kredive.


me dasht mujm, po nuk po dojme!


 


e qata vica pa kryp



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AyEshteZeshkan

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O Metal, le kit pune krejt se ky te koka i pershtatshem me e bo far ministri! Ama qikjo kallxon mire se qfare jemi shiptart se shumica jon si expo e per qata une shpesh thom qe na i kem punt shum teper mire tuj e marre parasysh qfare jena.

Ti [expo] bre njeri te koke kategori e veqante. Allahile kallxom n'qfar tabele e gjete Mesingun? Ne qat tabelen periodike te Mendeljevit, qe e pranon krejt bota pos teje, nuk ka mesing as nuk ka element me shkurtese Me MESINGU OSHT LEGURE, E LEGURAT NUK JON N'TABELE.

EXPO-IMPO wrote:

eh morre i nderuari ZESHKAN ti larg je prej POLITIKE besom me kete komentin tend ,se per me u marr me POLITIK duhesh me NOTUE ME VALE te EKONOMIs (e kjo pune e ka si DASHURIA nese din me notue PSHTON e nese nuk din FUNDOSESH ), edhe e perberjen e MAKINES apo drampes ne perqindje me metal kisha pas qef me dite prej teje ?! nese ka mundesi SHEMBULL nese deshiron se krejt cka ka edhe ne GOMA te MAKINES te tregoj sa fije te telit me saktesisht MESSING (perzirja e BAKRIT me ZINK ne tabelen kimike" Me ") ne te jan!!!!


E qe tash, kqyrne ju per veti se kush o qu me ja bajt dertin privatizimit t'pasunis tukosovs. Me gjith mu e kit haverin Metalin qe qohem me ja spjegu qiftit tyne pjesmarrjen e materialeve n'prodhime...

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EXPO

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po te tregoj dicka METAL po kam frike se reagon shum keq(apo dikush tjetr qe e lexon) ne AMBIENTIN ton tuKOSOVES me saktesishte tu PRISHTINEs qysh jan kah na qijn nervat SEMAFORAT e KRYQYTETIT kam frik se mbrenda nate i zhduk spaku kah 3 SEMAFORA (nuk ta shoh per tmadhe ne kete KRIZ)

keto jan cmimet aktuale per Shrot(apo metale berllog)

per KILOGRAM cmimet

CELIKshrot 0,85 CENT(Euro)
CELIK i perziem 0,70
BAKER 3,10
MESING 1,60
ALUMIN I PASTER 1,10
ALUMIN TENXHERE 0,70
PLUMB 0,40
ZINK 0.65
VA 3,00
Kabell e RRYMES 0,85 e me ja hjek kablles izolimin del pesh me e vogel po ka mundesi me te dal me shum fitim prej BAKRIT tE PASTER qe e shet


keto cmime ndoshta nuk jan krejt reale per KOSOVE po besom se me SHROT ne EVROPE jan keto cmime (sben me harrue KOSOVA eshte ne EVROPE)


e per Kalkulacion se si shkon per produkcionin e Mercedesit e deri ne SHITJE pyetem mos ke frik, e un tye te pyes per POLITIKANT e kosoves se cfare hajduta jan se at po e din shum me mire sipas komentev tua deri tani


me tmira




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metali

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EXPO-IMPO wrote:


AyEshteZeshkan wrote: Edhe lene vlla ekonomin kur nuk e kini zanat se nuk osht si politika e me mujt gjithkush me u marr me to. Nuk i hyp qmimi automobilit trefish nese shtrajtohet hekuri trefish se beso qe n'cmim nuk marrin pjese metalet as me 10%!!! Qikaq prej meje o "ekonomista" eh morre i nderuari ZESHKAN ti larg je prej POLITIKE besom me kete komentin tend ,se per me u marr me POLITIK duhesh me NOTUE ME VALE te EKONOMIs (e kjo pune e ka si DASHURIA nese din me notue PSHTON e nese nuk din FUNDOSESH ), edhe e perberjen e MAKINES apo drampes ne perqindje me metal kisha pas qef me dite prej teje ?! nese ka mundesi SHEMBULL nese deshiron se krejt cka ka edhe ne GOMA te MAKINES te tregoj sa fije te telit me saktesisht MESSING (perzirja e BAKRIT me ZINK ne tabelen kimike" Me ") ne te jan!!!!


qe po provoj me ta zdrit pak: 1 kerr [sh mercedes, i ka 1000 deri 1500 kilogram heker. Nese hekri kish me kushtu ka 1 ojro (qi nuk eshte po hajde po e zame qi osht) ather cmimi i kerrit kish me dal 1000 deri 1500 ojro.


Kur ta kqyrsh qi mercedesi i bon s'paku nja 30.000 ojro e merr vesh qi hekri te koka veq 5% e cmimit.


E me bo me kon naj ferrari qi kushton 300.000 ojro? Hekri i tina kushton veq 0.5%.


 


Pi bjen qi s'duhet mi **** hekrin e trepces ferrarit po atyne qi bojn kerre ma te lira se ata naj din ma shum per nder. A ja shesim zastaves more?



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lalja

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po hajt more hiqnu saj!


a dini pse e kan pllavushet ballin me vreda?


prej rrypit


hahahah


****ne more, ****ne krejt kosoven


runu po ju met edhe naj rob te shpija pa ****e



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EXPO-IMPO

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AyEshteZeshkan wrote:



Edhe lene vlla ekonomin kur nuk e kini zanat se nuk osht si politika e me mujt gjithkush me u marr me to. Nuk i hyp qmimi automobilit trefish nese shtrajtohet hekuri trefish se beso qe n'cmim nuk marrin pjese metalet as me 10%!!!

Qikaq prej meje o "ekonomista"





eh morre i nderuari ZESHKAN ti larg je prej POLITIKE besom me kete komentin tend ,se per me u marr me POLITIK duhesh me NOTUE ME VALE te EKONOMIs (e kjo pune e ka si DASHURIA nese din me notue PSHTON e nese nuk din FUNDOSESH ), edhe e perberjen e MAKINES apo drampes ne perqindje me metal kisha pas qef me dite prej teje ?! nese ka mundesi SHEMBULL nese deshiron se krejt cka ka edhe ne GOMA te MAKINES te tregoj sa fije te telit me saktesisht MESSING (perzirja e BAKRIT me ZINK ne tabelen kimike" Me ") ne te jan!!!!

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AyEshteZeshkan

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Mu po m'doket qe nuk e kuptove postin tem! Jo me i privatizu, po une i kisha fal veq me mujt me i shti n'prodhim diqysh. Ma mire osht qajo se me nejt qysh jon ka rrijin qe ma shume se 10 vjet e njerzia sillen rrugve e thojin qe nuk kan pune. Une edhe ligjin e kisha pru qe tokat qe nuk punohen me u ekspropriu edhe me u sh it ose dhone me qira atyne qe dojin me i punu, t'kofshin edhe bugar, kari nuk po m'han.

E tash ma prishe qefin pak me qato "kunder ne menyre Patriotike jam" se nuk ki hiq qa me kone kunder po te na patriotizmi o marr vesh dallash e menojin njerzia qe patriotizm osht me fol palidhje me ftyre t'qartun, me kundershtu krejt qka vjen prej tjeter fisi, katuni, shehri... mos t'foli per shtete edhe kombe!

Edhe lene vlla ekonomin kur nuk e kini zanat se nuk osht si politika e me mujt gjithkush me u marr me to. Nuk i hyp qmimi automobilit trefish nese shtrajtohet hekuri trefish se beso qe n'cmim nuk marrin pjese metalet as me 10%!!! Po qe po ju jepi ni msim per si fillestar qe jeni: LANDEN E PAR E SHET FUKAREJA. Edhe nuk fitohet aty sen, veq sa per me u gjallnu, e kajhere as qaq. Nuk po thom me e lon krejt ate pune, se tash na kan met n'dor qeto kapacitete edhe duhet me i shfrytzu ama me kon patriota na maspari bohem t'urte qe me i terhjek investitort e jo qesi bisha qfare jemi qetash qe me u tute njerzia me shkel n'Kosove. Masdyti duhet me msu se kurkush fabrika me vozit kombi e me sh it CD-ja nuk ka me qel po duhen njerz te shkathte me kulture t'punes.

Qikaq prej meje o "ekonomista"

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EXPO

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AyEshteZeshkan wrote:

Qe t'kallxoj une qa ka pllavushka kunder kti tipit: Si krejt shiptart, zeshkan, pllavush apo flokekuq, edhe kjo veq duhet me kone kunder! Nese nuk je kunder, nuk je shiptar po je turk, jugosllav, shka, propallic nderkombetar - respektivisht kohes. Krejt dynjeja jon qu mare e mrapsht me na shfrytezy neve popullin e shumvuajtur dhe shekullisht t'shtypun shqiptar ne trojet tona etnike!
..................................i mush mushknit pluhun per me nxjerr metale qe kur te sh iten menxi e nxjerrin ka ni rroge t'pshurrt per qata minator.




AyEshteZeshkan.......... (a e din at punen ZESHKANI E HAN HEKURIN ???!! )
kunder ne menyre Patriotike jam edhe une po prap ekonomia nuk eshte patriotizm edhe pse kisha pas QEF te ish , po prap me jepni argumente se si do te ish me se miri per TRepcen apo Feronikelin

edhe dijeni nese nuk i privatizojm tash kurr nuk do ti privatizohen me mire ,arsyeja eshte se tregu i KINES ka aq shum urie per HEKUR qe nje vite spo EKSPORTON per EVROPE ; e ketu nEVROPE spari industria e AUTOMOB.... si MERCEDESI.RENAULT,VW,BMW kan problem me lend pare dhe kapacietet , cmimi i blerjes se lendes tpare ka kcye ne TREFISH e keta skan hesap me i rrite edhe cmimin e makinave ne TREFISH se kush si blen e per pasoja qe vijn pas ma mire mos te folim .........kriza politike nje mas nje krejt bashkimin evropian e per kete e ja majn KRAHUN MITTALIT se ky ende mundet me i kontroolue cmimet deri diku e na (shpresoj)spaku duhet ta shfrytezojm momentin e te bejm cmos te kem nje privatizim se kohe me te mire per eksport (edhe ate sasi pak A shum ) nuk kem.

me tmira

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AyEshteZeshkan

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Qe t'kallxoj une qa ka pllavushka kunder kti tipit: Si krejt shiptart, zeshkan, pllavush apo flokekuq, edhe kjo veq duhet me kone kunder! Nese nuk je kunder, nuk je shiptar po je turk, jugosllav, shka, propallic nderkombetar - respektivisht kohes. Krejt dynjeja jon qu mare e mrapsht me na shfrytezy neve popullin e shumvuajtur dhe shekullisht t'shtypun shqiptar ne trojet tona etnike!
Kur ke puna e Feronikllit, e dha oferten ma te madhe ni firme e panjoftun e shipnis, e u qune shiptart mule "jo ata jon prevaranta, jo nuk kena ni kurre per at firm..." ... UNMIKU e ja dha Alferonit, e masanej mule qata t'njejtit me e sha tash Alferonin "jo pse ktyne masi kta 20 milion ma pak, jo kta jon rus, jo kta jon shkije,..." ...
Tash edhe puna e Trepces, hala ka qesi debilla qe menojin qe ajo osht "margaritar" dhe "propeler i zhvillimit ekonomik" tukosovs! Ju ka met pi demonstratave '81 me ate parollen "Trepca puno, Beogradi jeto" e kan menu shipet qe masi pe man Trepca krejt Serbin (Jugosllavin bile), krejt qa duhet me bo na osht me e fitu pavarsin edhe kena me u knaq veq tuj nejt e tuj u rrezit, kejt me pare qe kena me i fitu pi Trepces.
Shiptart komplet e injorojin faktin qe hiq ma larg se ne valen e funit t'privatizimit dy miniera nuk mujten me u sh it se nuk ke ASNI ofertues e tash jon qu pesh mos po na e blen dikush minierat e Trepces e nuk po mujim me u rras neper zgafella me i mush mushknit pluhun per me nxjerr metale qe kur te sh iten menxi e nxjerrin ka ni rroge t'pshurrt per qata minator.

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pllavushja wrote:

Lakshmi Mittal, the steel billionaire embroiled ....................................................
chodiev group (shef e kan Sittardin) eshte kompani e specializume per me korruptu qeverite, per me mujt me privatizu minjera me cmime qesharake.





edhe nje harrova me jep cmime REALE per minierat e KOSOVES dhe gjendje momentale MARRODE qe mund ta shohish nese e gjen dike me te njoftue me saktesisht ( e shpresoj qe do te del prej atyne TRIPAVE se Trepca e Feronikeli jan dicka special e ku thojn njerzt se ka pasuri me miliarda se kan me u punsue aq puntor si ne kohen e TITOS e kan me mujt me marr Kredita, Akontacia..... me i shtie krejt Djemt me punue me me dal nPENSION kurr tju qohet .................)


e sa per SHKAUN mos ta nien se ne pjesen VERIORE te Mitrovices eshte vetem SHKRITORJA qe as dreqit nuk i vyen ( e le me natyres te kosoves), e minerat gjenden ne SHALe e RAHOVE ku jan shqipet ku shkau as nuk e din kah eshte....


e nese deshiron me i rrite CMIMET e minierave te KOSOVES dil neper rruge dhe KERKO prej politikanve tone qe te bejn nje INFRASTRUKUR me te forte se sa me shpejt mund te EKSPORTOSH lenden e pare aq me shum do te pagujn




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ooo plavushe me thuaj dicka me saktesisht PRO dhe KUNDER per Lakshmi Mittal dhe mos e be kete pune tmadhe e mos u be Naciste kunder ketij tipi me prejardhje te Indise,nese je mesue ti vetem me emra amerikan (apo evropes te vjeter) te ken monopole me vjen keq ,kete pune e ka kap GLOBALIZIMI


kete qe thua ti se na Kazakstan i ka pague 100 milion nuk eshte asgje e re per sisitemin e kazakstanit por jo vetem te kazastan po ne cdo shtet tbashkimin Evropian mund te gjen mbeshtetje me ket shume, si e ka gjet ne Partin e TOny BLairit

MITTALne vitin 2002 mikut KOSOVES TONI BLAIR per 2 milion pfund qe ja ka dhurue partis LABOUR i ka hyp AEROPLANIT e u nis deri ne RUMUNI per me intervenue per me marr ky at KONCERN te Hekurit e bene HESAP vete me thirr ky njiher TONIN ntelefon e TONI me ta thirr FATMIR SEJDIUN fal e merr FERONIKELIN e TREPCEn

une per ket Tipin Mittal nuk kam asgje kunder se ka pas sukses ne tregun Amerikan qe e ka sanuar krejt industrin e hekurit ,Evrop spo foli eshte be numer 1 apo eshte kah bohet momentalisht qe eshte kah ja blen me dhune AKCIAT e firmes ARCELOR (ku edhe tani po lun politika FRANCEze qe eshte kunder e politika ANGELZE me GEJRMANE PRO ) kete tipin smunet me ndal askush me harrojeni.......


e ti BLLONDI (plla.....) nese me tregon edhe njeher pse je kunder dhe kon e ke me alternative reale per me livrit ekonomin e KOSOVEs


Me tmira

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pllavushja

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Lakshmi Mittal, the steel billionaire embroiled in a Labour party cash-for-favours scandal, gave millions in "special commissions" to facilitate the purchase of another steel plant


ky tipi e ka ble feronikelin, e ne kazakstan i ka pagu 100 milion "komisioneve speciale" per me mujt me privatizu nje minjere.


chodiev group (shef e kan Sittardin) eshte kompani e specializume per me korruptu qeverite, per me mujt me privatizu minjera me cmime qesharake.



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EXPO

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Pllavush me trego se cka kie ti kunder `Lakshmi Mittal, the steel billionaire ?
dhe arsyen se e permdne kete tipin ne mineralet e kosoves??




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pllavushja

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o i kom pa po nuk e vlejke me i komentu

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ferizajlija???

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 hey moj   pllavush  sa komlimentin e ke marr dje?? po xeni  e ka shti fshisn dje??  o xen kurse  rrymen bre, o njeri, se nuk kina boll per mi perdor fshisen??  
 

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Japani

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Une spo di ku veq e kam lexu ni raport qe nuk e di kush e ka ba, qe kosova i ka  disa miliarda euro pasuri nentokesore,e Bill Gates i ka disa Biljona spo di qka po qajna kok kur munet ma ardh bill gates edhe me than qe 1.5 biljon Euro edhe qunu e lshojeni kosoven ose paramendoni me ju **** far kompanis se madhe trepqa edhe ata mi hi mar trepqes e me dal deri N'prizeren per kater a pes dit, edhe me ec ata e mbas dy dite me sharru gjysma e kosoves nen tok hahhaaahahh veq hajgare.
Pernime qikjo tem eshte shum serioze, se shumė njerez i kam ni tu than se kur bahet pavarsia edhe ja fillon trepqa punes ma per kosoven nuk ka rrezik kjo normal qe nuk osht e vertet po qajo eshte diqka qe i mban shpresat e kosovarėve, e paramendoni me ba me u **** plot njerez zhgenjehen. Une mendoj se organizatat joqeveritare qetash jan ba shum qeveritare, kekrush nuk po merret me problemet e me hajniat qe po ndodhin qdo dit, krejt vlla po merren me pune madhore krejt veq per pavarsi po folin, pse vlla nuk bahen nje OJQ qe e kish marr guximin qe ish marr vetem me AntiKorrupsion, pse ska guxim kerkush?
Unė po mendoj se edhe partit Opozitare jan ba Pozite krejt demek kan ra te njejtin mendim, kerkush nuk po e kritikon kerkan ata edhe ma heret jan kan te njejtin mendim te gjith jan kan per pavarsi po qetash po me duket se secili ja kan shti voet n'fjok njani tjetrit e kerkush nuk guxon me livrit, po nejse se ata per vete e kan po pe di se neve per dit po nav q* nana nga pak, e ju e dini se pika pika mbushet pusi.


Qohuni Kosovar nga gjumi qe na ka kaplu prej qershorit te 1999.



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pllavushja

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qe kujt ju ka **** feronikeli:


 


The Steel Maharajah


BBC News


http://news.bbc.co.uk


24.07.2002


 


Lakshmi Mittal, the steel billionaire embroiled in a Labour party cash-for-favours scandal, gave millions in "special commissions" to facilitate the purchase of another steel plant, the BBC's Money Programme has been told.


Mr Mittal gave $100m to the controversial Chodiev group for its help in the purchase of a steel plant in the former Soviet republic of Kazakhstan.

Key members of the Chodiev group are said to have had business links with organized crime in the former Soviet Union.

Mr Mittal, 51, hit the headlines earlier this year when it was discovered he had given the Labour Party £125,000. The donation came just two months before Tony Blair wrote to the Romanian prime minister supporting Mr Mittal's bid to buy the country's largest steel plant, Sidex.

Mr Mittal's company, LNM Holdings, is not British and is registered in the Dutch Antilles, a Caribbean tax haven.

Dr Johannes Sittard was Mittal's number two between 1995-2001. He negotiated Mr Mittal's purchase of the massive Karmet steelworks in Kazakhstan for $310m in 1995.

He told the Money Programme that he used the Chodiev group as the go-between with the Kazakh President, Nursultan Nazarbayev, and admitted paying them a huge commission.







"We paid a certain commission over a period of time... because it was very important to get help with the local authorities and the tax issues."



Dr Johannes Sittard

US oil companies are currently being investigated by the Swiss and US justice departments, because of allegations that they paid bribes into secret Swiss bank accounts held by the Kazakh president and some of his officials.

German born Dr Sittard told the Money Programme: "We paid a certain commission over a period of time for the service what they have provided on the beginning of the process, because it was very important to get help with the local authorities and the tax issues."

When asked: "We've been told $100m was the figure paid", Dr Sittard replied: "It was a substantial amount."

Dr Sittard who became chief executive of the Chodiev's Eurasia group last year, added: "So, I mean everybody who hears a figure of what you call $100m is a little astonished for sure."

He was then asked again: "It's a huge amount of money though isn't it?" Speaking from his offices in London's St James's Street, Dr Sittard replied: "It's a nice bundle of money, yes."

The energy company Tractebel is being investigated by the Belgian authorities over $55m in commission it paid to the Chodiev group for acting as its intermediaries in Kazakhstan.

Those involved in brokering the deal have told the Money Programme the commissions paid were in fact bribes, although Tractebel denies this. The three leading members of the Chodiev group have also been charged with money laundering in Belgium.

In Almaty, the Kazakh business capital, local businessman and politician, Bolat Abilov, told the BBC: "The Belgian company Tractebel bought a power grid in Almaty with a turnover of $100m. And for that they paid a bribe of $50m. Mr Mittal's company has a turnover of a billion and a bit, so you can judge for yourself how much extra he had to pay."

Annanya Sarin, spokesperson for Mittal's LNM Group, told the BBC that the $100m was not a commission, arguing that the figure had been taken out of context and the money was paid to the Chodiev group for supplying the Karmet works with iron ore and energy. Lakshmi Mittal, the steel billionaire embroiled in a Labour party cash-for-favours scandal, gave millions in "special commissions" to facilitate the purchase of another steel plant, the BBC's Money Programme has been told.


Mr Mittal gave $100m to the controversial Chodiev group for its help in the purchase of a steel plant in the former Soviet republic of Kazakhstan.

Key members of the Chodiev group are said to have had business links with organized crime in the former Soviet Union.

Mr Mittal, 51, hit the headlines earlier this year when it was discovered he had given the Labour Party £125,000. The donation came just two months before Tony Blair wrote to the Romanian prime minister supporting Mr Mittal's bid to buy the country's largest steel plant, Sidex.

Mr Mittal's company, LNM Holdings, is not British and is registered in the Dutch Antilles, a Caribbean tax haven.

Dr Johannes Sittard was Mittal's number two between 1995-2001. He negotiated Mr Mittal's purchase of the massive Karmet steelworks in Kazakhstan for $310m in 1995.

He told the Money Programme that he used the Chodiev group as the go-between with the Kazakh President, Nursultan Nazarbayev, and admitted paying them a huge commission.







"We paid a certain commission over a period of time... because it was very important to get help with the local authorities and the tax issues."



Dr Johannes Sittard

US oil companies are currently being investigated by the Swiss and US justice departments, because of allegations that they paid bribes into secret Swiss bank accounts held by the Kazakh president and some of his officials.

German born Dr Sittard told the Money Programme: "We paid a certain commission over a period of time for the service what they have provided on the beginning of the process, because it was very important to get help with the local authorities and the tax issues."

When asked: "We've been told $100m was the figure paid", Dr Sittard replied: "It was a substantial amount."

Dr Sittard who became chief executive of the Chodiev's Eurasia group last year, added: "So, I mean everybody who hears a figure of what you call $100m is a little astonished for sure."

He was then asked again: "It's a huge amount of money though isn't it?" Speaking from his offices in London's St James's Street, Dr Sittard replied: "It's a nice bundle of money, yes."

The energy company Tractebel is being investigated by the Belgian authorities over $55m in commission it paid to the Chodiev group for acting as its intermediaries in Kazakhstan.

Those involved in brokering the deal have told the Money Programme the commissions paid were in fact bribes, although Tractebel denies this. The three leading members of the Chodiev group have also been charged with money laundering in Belgium.

In Almaty, the Kazakh business capital, local businessman and politician, Bolat Abilov, told the BBC: "The Belgian company Tractebel bought a power grid in Almaty with a turnover of $100m. And for that they paid a bribe of $50m. Mr Mittal's company has a turnover of a billion and a bit, so you can judge for yourself how much extra he had to pay."

Annanya Sarin, spokesperson for Mittal's LNM Group, told the BBC that the $100m was not a commission, arguing that the figure had been taken out of context and the money was paid to the Chodiev group for supplying the Karmet works with iron ore and energy.



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pllavushja

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belaxhia wrote:


oj ti pllavushe leje moj trepqen qka mi bo qytetit te ndar te mitrovices se???se per trepqa marojna sa dush.


Po ty a po ta merr mendja qe shkijet e kan "okupu" mitrovicen per ndonje arsye tjeter a?


Une po ju thom qe jon ty dasht me e ****e kadal kadal me dhelperi. Ne "Economist" e kan qite shpalljen per administratore te Trepces. Ai ne pershkrim te punes e ka me e ****e Trepcen mbrenda 2006-****. Kan me ja bo ma zi se Feronikelit.



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xenini

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Nese mundeni mu perqendru ne temė, cilja ėshtė shum e randesishme, e mos u kapni per qime, ne stilin qvar niku ka e qesi sene.

Mos u boni bre kaq shum patriota, se na mytet mo. Po do me shku Mitrovica dhe trepca e ju po kapeni per nika.

A nuk po e shihni apsurdin a?

Tungatjeta nga xenin plavushani.

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Bjondi

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!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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belaxhia

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oj ti pllavushe leje moj trepqen qka mi bo qytetit te ndar te mitrovices se???se per trepqa marojna sa dush.

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pllavushja

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Nuk e di a keni ndi po bashkesia nderkombetare bashke me do shype tona ne bord, po planifikojne me e ****e Trepcen.


Sagllam secili prej tyne po e shef shansen jetesore me i mbush xhepat. Edhe jo veq objektet si shkritoret e qa po di une, po edhe minjeren. Arsyeja te cilen e ofrojne, mos te kishte qene tragjike kishte qene qesharake, osht se duhet mi pagu borxhet e trepces.


Privatizimi ne thelb osht proces shume pozitiv, veq kta ja kajten nonen bre, jo veq Kosoven po edhe nentoken po dojne me e ****e.


Sot u mur vesh qe menaxheri i Trepces si duket i ka mare depozitat e argjentit qe kane qene ne BPK dhe ja ka shkel te shpija. Keta menaxhert nderkombetar, po vine ketu me rroga marramendese, po nuk po ju del boll, pa ja ngjit edhe dikun tjeter kesaj Kosove te shkrete.


A ka Kosovoa Qeveri, a Kuvend a shoqerti civile dikun me ju thon BOLL MA?


A e bojne keto veq kur kan far buxheti te majme per fushate ( qe kan qef mi thon kampanje)?


 



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